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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Oct 24, 2013 12:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: The 89 "Warlocks" shows

I have started to go through my "official" Dead releases . Am I just jaded, or these shows as much average 89 (with those BIG exceptions), as they came across to me now ? For the first night, I find the first set rather uneventful,except for the Bird Song .I bet it was exciting to hear "Help>Slip>Frank break out, I lost it when I heard them do it in LA in Dec., but It stuck me as sort of just ok, on this show . Might be hurt by the fact that I just heard that great one form the 77 Winterland set, which is really strong .The rest of the set is average , even the Morning Dew is not mind blowing . WBYG , must have been nice to end the show .
The show on the 9th starts off with a rather average set one . Fortunately, the second set holds up to its reputation . The pre-drums section with the reintroduced Dark Star is as good as they got in the Brent years . I was surprised how good the post drums section was . The Death Don't holds up to its high expectations , Even the Mr Fantasy/Jude section is stronger that usual (not a big fan of their cover of Fantasy). Even the T.Stones>Good Lovin' is pretty good, (two of least favorite Dead tunes from that era) but sort of everyday, compared to some of what transpired before this in the set . The Attics was real special .
So am I missing something ? Folks what do you think ? A special call out to fans of the late Brent period .

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Oct 25, 2013 8:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The 89 'Warlocks' shows

my listening years are basically 69-85...89 is their last big hoorah, with the comets tail extending into late 90-91...the Warlocks shows are good to great...10-09 is clearly better than 10-08...10-09 is likely the show of the year, the first set is about average for the year...the second set is awesome...Dark Star is nice, Death Don't is perfect, I think we all can take it or leave it with Mr. Fantasy>Hey Jude and here it is played as well as the Dead could have done it...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Oct 24, 2013 1:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The 89 'Warlocks' shows

I'm in full agreement with you, but inside the spaceship it felt different.

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Poster: Daddy D Date: Oct 24, 2013 2:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The 89 'Warlocks' shows

bluedevil nailed it.

Even outside in the parking lot before the shows there was a tangible feeling of anxious excited anticipation in the air.

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Poster: hseamons Date: Oct 25, 2013 8:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The 89 'Warlocks' shows

At first I didn't like these shows, but then I did very much.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Oct 24, 2013 3:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The 89 'Warlocks' shows

I think you are right on the mark DD. I haven't listened to 10-8-89 in many years, but typical 89' sounds about right. Typical '89 being far superior to the rather weak typical '88, so at least we were going in the right direction.

But then 10-9-89 2nd happened and the promise (to us touchheads at least) of the post coma era actually building to something worth the effort, time and treasure was fulfilled. The ride didn't last too long, but it was great while it did.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Oct 24, 2013 3:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The 89 'Warlocks' shows

I remember hearing about the "Death Don't" breakout at Shoreline in Sept. It seemed that things were on the way up, and when we heard about the "Warlocks" shows, and then the 10/16 Dark Star (that it was not just a one-off) got us excited . On 12/8 we got the Help>Slip, but alas, no Dark Star . It did seen that they were starting to "take it out" more, a shake it up just a little .
But after 91, it became apparent that they had gone as far as they were going to go . I am a little less enthusiastic about the period now than I was when it was happening, but it was sort of like the "comeback" of Elvis in 68-70, a last burst of good form, before the decline .

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Poster: djohnstone Date: Oct 24, 2013 8:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The 89 'Warlocks' shows

DD, Maybe you're just a little jaded and need to listen to some Roland Kirk.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Oct 25, 2013 8:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The 89 'Warlocks' shows

YEAH !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbzhw0Sz-js
Rahsaan the mann auf Deutschland !

Roland Kirk ALWAYS a good idea . Rip Rig in Panic is one of favorite Jazz albums .
I'm going through my 'Trane (I cycle through my cds) right now .

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Oct 24, 2013 3:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The 89 'Warlocks' shows

I remember hearing about the "Death Don't" breakout at Shoreline in Sept. It seemed that things were on the way up, and when we heard about the "Warlocks" shows, and then the 10/16 Dark Star (that it was not just a one-off) got us excited . On 12/8 we got the Help>Slip, but alas, no Dark Star . It did seen that they were starting to "take it out" more, a shake it up just a little .
But after 91, it became apparent that they had gone as far as they were going to go . I am a little less enthusiastic about the period now than I was when it was happening, but it was sort of like the "comeback" of Elvis in 68-70, a last burst of good form, before the decline .

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Oct 24, 2013 4:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The 89 'Warlocks' shows

Now that I think about it, I don't really listen to much '87-'90 anymore.

If I listen to a Brent era show it is almost always a '79-'81, '82 or an '85. The years '87- '89, '86, and '8three (my number three key is not working) rarely get any play.

This gem from '90 (show of the year by a nose) is in regular rotation > https://archive.org/details/gd1990-03-24.sbd.miller.107873.flac16

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Oct 24, 2013 5:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The 89 'Warlocks' shows

I try to like it all. and do to some extent . The post coma, Touch of Grey, tighter, more together Grateful Dead was a great story . They were a tighter, well oiled machine , maybe their most "pro" ever . But all these years later this era is a little short on ...soul, pathos, feeling ? For instance, I love the Jerry ballads, but there are too perfunctory Wharf Rats (one of my most loved songs, when they would get it) . Though to be fair, there are good ones, and when Garcia started adding new songs in that spot (SOTM, SMRs, Days B.) he really shines .
When there was that little extra spark, you would get sows like the Knick .

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Poster: sakanaband Date: Oct 25, 2013 9:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The 89 'Warlocks' shows

Please excuse the length of this review! It appears on the Andrew F. aud recording of this show and is what it felt like to be in the Mothership that night. I wrote this a couple years ago, but don't think I wanna change a word. You asked for it, Dudley! ;)

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I saw the Dead 86 times and this was my clear favorite. By far. This has been reviewed so much that I’ll try to cover the scraps of ground not already covered on this deservedly legendary show. This concert and the night before may stand as a unique moment in the Dead's career as an example of a stylistic breakthrough that catapulted them to new stratospheric heights and wild new directions. Garcia had been quoted in interviews throughout the 80's about Dark Star no longer being part of their repertoire. He stated, in essence, that "we have just played it out" meaning there was no new territory to cover. So what happened to change his/their mind?

The previous night in Hampton saw the band fully integrate MIDI technology into their show where it had been “beta-tested” in Drums/Space for nearly a year or longer. I did not attend the October 8th show, but they were using MIDI in Candyman, Birdsong and Slipknot to name a few standouts. This is also another pretty cool show that often gets overshadowed due to the other-worldly proceedings the next night.

The first set of this show is pretty fantastic. The band sounded like I had never heard them before. I was stunned at all of the strange new sounds from Bobby, Brent and especially Garcia where he was producing a tone and effects that he had never used before. Even the drum equipment had new additions that hinted at mysteries untold. Things were really different in Stranger, the solo in Built to Last, the solo in Ramble on Rose and even sections of Row Jimmy. The crowd was buzzing during the break and as I was above the taper’s section the band’s highly evolved new instrumental and overall concert sound was the topic of most conversations.

Lights go down, Playin starts and not just 20 seconds after the “jump-off” point at about 2:55 Garcia busts a tone that had jaws gaping. The tone alone gets a cheer from the crowd. What follows is arguably the most interesting and exciting Playin’ jam since the epic ’72-’74 versions. This is truly “another level” type of mind-think improvisation that we always knew the band was capable of playing, but rarely attempted much less achieved. The segue into Uncle John’s was almost a surprise after touring the outer edges of the universe. This version is really powerful and confident if not precisely perfect (when is it ever?). Back into Playin’ with more digi-weirdness, a pregnant pause and then the famous tetrad of notes that every true Deadhead knows and adores. This was really weird to behold in person. The beginning of Dark Star caused this exceptionally odd sort of hesitancy in the crowd. Nobody could believe their ears/mind. It took until Garcia sang “Dark Star crashes” until we all could truly get over our disbelief and be sure it wasn’t some kind of tease or cosmic bad joke or that we had gone mad. The end of the first verse before the band launches into the “floating part” was sustained ecstasy. The jam in Dark Star is wicked, dark, intense, revelatory, etc. MIDI opened these guys up to tackling their old workhorse once again. Wow. Drums were extraordinary since Billy and Mickey were well aware of the history taking place and the crowd was just in silenced awe.

The Death Don’t Have No Mercy is my favorite version of this song. The round-house verses, the cohesive and musically brilliant instrumental jams and the emotion in its execution is another comparable highlight to what had just ensued. The rest of the second set naturally pales in comparison and was frankly hard to digest at the time that night. This is interesting since the versions here are quite superb and at any other concert would have likely been considered the highlight of the night. The Dead had one more trick up its sleeve with Attics as the encore. This, in the old days, had been difficult for me to listen to on tape since the vocals were, um, poor. That made this arguably more impressive breakout that much sweeter. This is a knock-out version and it was obvious from the killer vocals that the band had recently been in the studio and that there monitor sound on stage must have been perfect. This for me was the ultimate instance of the “last sweet kiss goodnight” effect that the Dead rule over in music history with their encores. I have the chills as I write this remembering that the sound and band and audience seemed to be embracing my soul.

Something happened after the band walked off the stage that I have never seen before at any of the over 1000 concerts (total of all bands, not just GD) I’ve attended in my life. The house lights came up, the crowd stood standing and stunned. Nobody moved. Then from a few claps the place erupted with vicious applause and screams of pleasure. I was not the only one that had tears of joy and disbelief in my eyes leaving the Coliseum that night.

This is the best audience recording of this show I’ve ever heard. It blows away the soundboard since this is a show that requires you to at least have a matrix recording to hear the chill-inducing crowd response. I still thing about Jerry every day. Guess I still miss that old guy.

This is a bellwether show, definitely five stars, and arguably the best show the band played going back a decade or more. In my humble opinion, of course.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Oct 25, 2013 9:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The 89 'Warlocks' shows

Its good to have your response, as the late California legend Huell Howser, used to say "Get me excited about this". which is sort of what I wanted .I think this gets to the problem of the actual live experience not coming totally through on a recording, especially a SBD . One of the great moments in Dead history is the crowd response to the opening to DS on that first AUD pushed into my hands by a fellow Head , with a wild eyed look, saying "you gotta hear this"! I can only imagine what that was like to be there for that night .
But for us who were not blessed/lucky enough attend we are left only with the tapes (I did see them 9 times in 89). I still think, on evidence of the tapes, the first set doesn't hint at what was going to hit the fan in the second set . But maybe i'll go back and play it again .
And I miss Jerry every day also . I try to get excited about what Phil, or Bobby, etc. are doing, and despite the set-lists, energy, I still miss the soulfulness of Garcia . I keep going back to even the worst of the GD shows , but never find the desire to really re-listen to the other guys shows .
A case could be made, based on the audio left to us, that these show are overrated (certainly that first night) , but I wasn't there in the ship .
Weird idea dept.: What if for these "Warlocks" show they played only material they played in the Warlocks days ...

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Poster: sakanaband Date: Oct 25, 2013 10:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The 89 'Warlocks' shows

"What if for these "Warlocks" show they played only material they played in the Warlocks days" ... That would have been a great idea! That sounds like something Phil might try. Can't say that I'd listen to it though ;)